No one knows. I would think a full die run, but I don't know the estimates on the number of coins coming from '09 dies. So many of these have been found, and more importantly dumped on eBay, they are starting to become worthless.
Wait a sec . . . are you saying that the above are selling for $25 to $75 ?!?! Also -- does it have a "name". (E.g., the "extra thumb" is called "WDDR-001" or "CDDR-002" or 1DR-017 or (CONECA): 2-R-VIII)
The Chin hairs are called Abe Lincoln Catfisfh Whiskers, I sold them on ebay for about 30.00 a coin , but only have a few left for myself. They were hot until mid august the 2009 cent's lost there steam and I quit selling them. The Extra thumb's was really hot and far as I know they were coming out of the 2 roll LP2 sets from the mint.
http://koinpro.tripod.com/ He selling D/thumb MS64-65 $25.00 & $35.00 I found mine in 50c bank roll so I paid 1c
Keep looking, they are out there to be found. Heck I have one in one of my mint sets! I have also heard some have been found in Proof sets now as well. Jello my friend, Selling and listing are two different things. Listing a coin for 25-35 does not mean that your selling them. Especially when they are being found faster than the ones without the errors. Ken has not been feeling well and his site has not been updated in some time. If you look around on there I bet you can find things listed for under spot price as well. I talked to him the other day and this very subject actually came up in our conversation. I guess what I am saying is, dont put alot of stock on prices there at this time. The prices you quoted were probably decent prices back when they were first being found. : ) Strange how prices drop as more and more of the "errors" are found. I recall the same thing happening back in the Adams Dollar fiasco. :headbang:
I have about 20 of those, 30 extra finger, 32 whiskers, and dozens of the die clash near lincoln's right index finger, and one skeleton. But I like my 2009 mint set with the double thumb the best. However, to answer your question...I know there are less than 100,000 because that is the magic number of strikes any die pair can make before being changed out, as I understand it from a mint tour. So less than 100,000? Not sure if that helps, but the mint numbers reported in Coin World for the Formative Years P Minted cent is 376 million. So percentage wise...if there were 25,000 it would be about .006%. Of the mintage...that is not a bad number. Are they readily available now...absolutely, will they be readily available when my son turns 40 in thirty years...I don't think so. In addition...the mintage for the P mint Presidency is 130 Million which you would have to go back to the 1955s to find a lower mintage cent.
What is a glut today, may be rare tomorrow!! Right now these are very common because as they are found they go on ebay...however, I believe that by using some extrapolation, it can be ascertained that there may be as many as 25,000. That would be approximately .006 percent of the total mintage. Not a bad number over time. But in Numismatics time and condition is the key to value. In 40 years these coins will have value, especially when they discontinue the cent altogether, which I believe is coming soon to a theater near all of us. Hold on to them, don't sell them...let them ripen like a fine vintage wine, perhaps not in our lifetime, but in the lifetime of our heirs will the value of the great Formative Years P Mint extravaganza be realized. How many S VDB's were made? I wish I had a couple of dozen handed down to me by my great grandparents. Something to think about.:smile
I agree! but will the different so many types,it reminds me of 2005-P&D Minnesota State Quarter.I think they found 70+ die variety's here a link for the error hunters. http://minterrornews.com/issue29.pdf
Well, here's the thing . . . you can go on-line and find, from, say Mt Vernon coins, a "choice BU" 1955s for under $1. And it took 55 years to get that far. So, yeah, the 2009's will be worth something above and beyond a 2008, but I'm not sure how much more.
The real difference is the added value of the 200th Anniversary of Lincoln's birth, while the 1955 s has no such hoopla surrounding it. I believe there will be an extrinsic, as well as, intrinsic value associated, however, that is simply an opinion and we all know what they say about opinions. <grin>. Regardless, it is not my concern...I will be dust to dust by the time values of these coins may conceivably be realized. Honestly, in this type of business any coin is only as valuable as someone is willing to pay for it. Even the 1909 S VDB's or the 1916 D Mercs. or even mules with the sacagawea planchet. I guess it is all relative in the grand scheme of things.
Yeah, what good is trying to sell a 1909 s VDB in MS-70 condition if no one has the 5 million dollars you'd want for it.
Exactly!!! But I believe, there would be someone out there with that kind of cash to pay for it....although I would be hard pressed to pay $500, let alone $5 Million. LOL