2008 HAWAII QUARTER FOUND WITH EXTRA ISLAND....

Got some change back from a dollar bill the other day. Before giving to my wife for her change box I decided to take a look. Behold there was an extra island (die chip) below the Hawaii chain. Could this be one of a kind or are there others out there? Take a look at picts and leave some comments.

 

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Could be a die dent error ...

 

Atlantis?

 

Look at the Picts. You will see to the south/east of the main chip a tiny chip. The small chip shows up much better with a loupe.

 

Looks like a die chip. That means there are probably more out there. Maybe this will end up being a popular variety.

 

There's nothing there to chip, its open ocean . I still think its a die dent, or a strike though, but no chip ...

 

Heres one I own and Mr Potter wrote an article too . Here it is: August 20, 2006 -- Whenever folks start looking more closely at an issue for a new discovery like a doubled die, they tend to find other thing too. The search for 2005-P&D Minnesota quarters with the "Extra Tree" doubled dies is no different. Lots of minor variety types and strike doubling damage is being found and submitted. Perhaps one of the more interesting that came in is a leaf-shaped die dent that appears in the field over the second evergreen tree from the right of the state outline on this issue. One can see evidence of metal displacement that surrounds the dent as a sort of trench all around its perimeter. When a die is dented metal is of course pushed down. In reaction, metal may be displaced upwards outside the perimeters of the dent. When the die is used to strike a coin the recessed dent is evidenced on the coin as raised metal while the raised area of metal displacement on the die shows as a shallow trench around the dent. We often see this effect around Mintmarks that were punched into the dies prior to the 1990's. So far, at least three persons searching for the Minnesota doubled dies have found examples of these die dents with the first one coming in from Colleen Prebish on August 7 and another one coming in from Dave Serbonich.
And I have the third ...

 

We need a better close-up of (JUST ONE) of photos 2-5. No, I don't mean an enlargement.

Chris

 

What?

You never heard of volcanos?

How do you think the islands were formed?

Silly boy

 

Lol ...

 

Rick, I have issues with the die dent theory. Granted, we do apply the "crater effect" theory to die gouges (or dents) on coins because the coins are not made of tempered steel like the dies. I can't see how the metal could flow upward and outward on tempered steel.

A good example of this is the 2005-S KS Silver Proof SQ. I had two of these in a Mint order. This is a die dent, FS-901, and as you can see, there is no hint of any crater effect along the perimeter.



Chris

 

Potter has images and I think an article on that one too . Let me eat dinner, then I'll check potters site for it ..

 

Steak? Make mine medium-rare with a bottle of Pouilly Fuisse.

Chris

 

Recent Finds ...
2005-S Silver Proof KS 25c
More Of The Hoof-Shaped Die Dent Variety Found!


Click On Image For A Close-Up Of The Dent
Photo © Ken Potter 2006 / Coin courtesy of Vincent Burke

October 3, 2006 -- CONECA member Tony Kleczynski has updated his finds from three to ten of the 2005-S Silver Kansas proof quarters with the hoof-like die dent! He originally purchased ten set, keeping three for himself and passing out the other seven to family members. In the interviening weeks he checked with others and learned that they all had sets containing the variety!

September 19, 2006 -- CONECA member Tony Kleczynski reports finding three of the 2005-S Silver Kansas proof quarters with the hoof-like die dent! He said: "While getting caught up on my reading, I came across the 2005 Minnesota doubled die variety article and started to look at the mint sets I have to see if I had any of these varieties. For the heck of it I started with the Silver Proof sets only to find that all three sets had the "hoof" die dent on the Kansas quarter." He wondered if it was a common or rare variety but so far all the reports we have are what you see here! That'll make 'em rare so far! How do you like your steak? KP

July 15, 2005 -- CONECA member Billy Crawford saw the above item and sent the following: "FYI -- Chris Machuga of Florida sent me three (3) of the 2005-S Silver Proof Kansas Quarters that have the "Hoof" die dent. He found them in the 11-coin sets he ordered directly from the Mint. I will be mentioning his finds in my upcoming September/October issue of online Die Variety News magazine. You mentioned on the CONECA web site about reporting additional finds and wanted to pass this bit of information on to you. He reported them to me about a month ago." KP

July 4, 2006 -- Vincent Burke of California found a significantly large, curved, almost horse hoof-shaped die dent on the rear hindquarter of the bison on a 2005-S silver proof Kansas quarter. He found it in a complete 11-piece silver proof set. The variety is significantly larger in area than the die dents (or die gouges) found on the two well-known 2004-D Wisconsin quarters discovered some time ago and popularized under the nicknames "High Leaf" and "Low Leaf." It also appears that the Kansas variety is many times rarer than either of the Wisconsin pieces as none have been reported to this author since it was first publicized in a front page story in the December 6, 2005 issue of Numismatic News. Anybody finding any of these is encouraged to report them to CONECA! KP


See More Images Here

 

Emelia!!!

 

Yeah, I remember this. Since Billy and I used to converse often on the NGC forums, I notified him of my find in June, 2005. The only mistake in this article is that it was incorrectly reported that I had three of them when it was only two.

FWIW, you can see from the additional close-up that there is no evidence of the crater effect which supports my theory that the crater effect doesn't exist on die-hardened steel.

Chris

 

Could it be because one is struck on the Bison hind quarter ( die dent ) and thats why it has a hoof sticking out of its hind quarter . Whats the difference between the 2, ( minn. ) one is in the field ( die dent ) and the other is on the Bison hind quarter ( die dent ) ?

 

Make sure you read this one too:
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I'm not sure that the MN SQ is a die dent. Like I said, I don't see how the crater effect could be impressed into the die. The steel is just too hard for the metal to flow. Take a look at die clashes on Morgan dollars. You don't ever see any evidence of the crater effect on them. Yes, I could see it being a die break on the MN SQ, but not a die dent.

Chris

 

Here's some better images: Leaf-Shaped Die Dent Found On Minn. 25cby Ken Potter -- NLG
August 20, 2006



A look at the Prebish specimen


Photo © Ken Potter 2006
Here is a look at the Serbonich specimen


Shot to show the shallow ridge around the die dent Photo © Ken Potter 2006