2001 D Vermont quarter

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  1. Mark68

    Mark68 Well-Known Member

    Any idea? Maybe a clash. Looks like an attempt to polish it out occurred. 20220421_091853.jpg 20220421_092857.jpg 20220421_092909.jpg
     
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  3. potty dollar 1878

    potty dollar 1878 Well-Known Member

    By your pictures it makes the coin look gold plated.Not sure if it's a die clash,can't find an overlay for this design.
     
  4. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    I totally agree .
     
  5. Kevin Mader

    Kevin Mader Fellow Coin Enthusiast Supporter

    Is the design incuse? It kind of looks like the outer branch above FREEDOM.
     
  6. Mark68

    Mark68 Well-Known Member

    It is raised. Does it look like an attempt to polish it out?
     
  7. Kevin Mader

    Kevin Mader Fellow Coin Enthusiast Supporter

    I was wondering if it might have been a dropped element from one of the branches. I was trying to figure out from which cluster of branches since none appeared to line up. But I was keeping in mind that the reverse image was also possible here. However, the impression would have been incuse. It is interesting Mark. Can you get a couple extra pictures of the affected area? Close-ups with maybe a slight tilt to see the profile?

    Interesting...certainly flip worthy in my opinion.
     
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  8. Kevin Mader

    Kevin Mader Fellow Coin Enthusiast Supporter

    PS - not thinking a clash since the design appears related to the RDV and not the ODV.
     
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  9. Kevin Mader

    Kevin Mader Fellow Coin Enthusiast Supporter

    I do see what you are seeing regarding the grooves N to S.
     
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  10. Mark68

    Mark68 Well-Known Member

    I'll put it under the microscope and see if I can get closer image.
     
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  11. Kevin Mader

    Kevin Mader Fellow Coin Enthusiast Supporter

    Your images above are pretty good. The hope here is that the new photos might reveal something new. I'll be on the lookout for them.
     
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  12. Mark68

    Mark68 Well-Known Member

    Took a better shot with phone under natural light. Those polish lines I was talking about actually look like the tree. 20220421_183212.jpg
     
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  13. Cowinthehole

    Cowinthehole Active Member

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  14. Kevin Mader

    Kevin Mader Fellow Coin Enthusiast Supporter

    The lines do resemble the tree bark. The event appears in the center of the coin, which is the more typical position for Class 8 doubling. The event appears in relief, which suggests that it's not a dropped element. It doesn't appear like a clash since it's in relief and does not look like it comes from George's wig details.

    Interesting event though. More minds and discussion perhaps to sort this out.
     
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  15. Cowinthehole

    Cowinthehole Active Member

    It kind of does look like a dropped element from the branch, but I do agree with possible doubling
     
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  16. Kevin Mader

    Kevin Mader Fellow Coin Enthusiast Supporter

    In an earlier post I asked Mark for confirmation that the detail was in relief and not incuse. It looked like it was in relief, so that would rule out a dropped element. What is puzzling is how a RDV detail might appear in another spot on the RDV. Doubling would explain it, but normally on a Class 8 doubling, the detail reproduced is adjacent. This isn't really the case for the 'branch-like' detail. Part of a tree feature might be doubled, but not to the extent that we see the 'bark-like' effect adjacent. This leaves a couple of questions in my mind: How can two separate design details be present in the same general area? Design transfer of some kind? It is an interesting issue here for sure...at least it has my curiosity. Please point out any details I might be overlooking. I'm ready to revise theory as needed.
     
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  17. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Oh my gosh! The guy on the coin is from Vermont. He lives and works there. It’s winter and he’s cold. He’s got on a cost and a scarf. All you’re seeing is the cold air from his breathing while he’s freezing getting the sap to make maple syrup.

    Sorty but I couldn’t help it. It looks like a die clash and what you’re seeing is not his breathing or a tree but it’s the hair from Washington himself.
     
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  18. Kevin Mader

    Kevin Mader Fellow Coin Enthusiast Supporter

    I was trying to line up the wig features (inverted/reversed) but it didn’t seem to ‘fit’.
     
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  19. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Looks to me like the dies clashed.
    Neat find @Mark68
     
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  20. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Maybe a rotated die?
     
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  21. Dean 295

    Dean 295 D.O.M.

    When I first saw this in Numismatic news they dubbed it the man smoking.
     
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