I found this 1986 penny in some change.I am guessing the pic is good enough to see there is a rim only on one side of the coin.I'm sure it is a mint error,but maybe someone could tell me if this is common or not. Thanks for any help,God bless,Keith
What you have by the pics it looks like a misaligned die. There's not that much premium in these unless some of the elements were taking out yours is worth nothing. I would say yours is about 3 percent off, I would like to see the reverse please. JC
As far as errors are concerned, it's pretty common... usually a general rule of thumb is that part of the design needs to be missing from the coin before you get a premium.
Thanks JC i'm going to post the reverse. Thanks schroeder,when you say that part of the design needs to be missing.What do you mean?I am only questioning because all this coin stuff is new to me.Please don't take it the wrong way.Thanks again
What I mean by part of the design, is that the strike will have numbers or letters missing. The error you are close to having on your coin is a misaligned die, also called an off-center strike. See how this cent is missing part of the date and part of the motto? Hope this answers your question!
Yes sir,and thanks for that.My son is 14 and loves anything to do with a coin.When we found it he got excited.He's gone to bible school right now,so when he gets home,i'll tell him,we'll just have to keep looking,haha. Thanks again,and God bless
anytime! If you have the funds, I bet you and your son would enjoy going through rolls of pennies from the bank. You can buy a box of 2500 for face value with no tax or anything. I've found on average 6.3 wheaties per box, but many other interesting things, Including coins similar to the one you posted. And of course, when you're finished, you can just take them back to the bank and get your money back for the coins you don't wish to keep.
We just got $10 worth today,$5 of the new pennies.That is where that one came from.We got $5 of the new pinnies about 3 weeks ago and found 14 with a small die crack,not much,but we said when we can,we will get some more and try again.One of these days,we'll find something ''big''.
Just to clear things up a little, a misaligned die and an off center strike are two different errors. A misaligned die happens when one die is centered and the other die isn't but the coin is still struck in the collar. An off centered strike happens when the coin is not fed into the coining chamber completely and both sides are off center and struck out of the collar because the coin blocks the collar from coming up around it. So basically, a misalinged die will be off center on one side and have a full rim where an off centered strike will be off on both sides and will not have the rim from the collar. Also keep in mind there are tolerances to everything on a coin. It is acceptable at the mint for one die to be misaligned as long as the complete design is present on the coin. So in my opinion the coin you show above is a normal strike and is not an error. It may be uncentered on one side but if it is an acceptable strke at the mint then how can we as collectors call this an error? It becomes an error when part of the design is missing as stated above and that is when it has a value above face value. So I think your coin is a normal strike and is not an error. If you look at alot of coins you will find more like this. But keep your eyes open for the ones missing part of the design. They are out there.
We are not talking about what is acceptable. The coin is still a mialigned die and is off about three percent the Op wanted to know if his coin is and error and the coin is still considered an error no mater what . This is not a off center strike your right ,but you can have a misaligned obverse and reverse dies. Thank you JC Formerly JazzcoinsJoe
Most 1986 P&D are poorly minted.zinc rot & out of collar strikes a common I think the only premium is to a find MS-66 or above coin from 1986 1986-P Gem Bu roll $20.00 if your lucky 1986-D $35.00 if your lucky
,'but you can have a misaligned obverse and reverse dies.' But not together on the same coin. If you did it would be a off-center strike.
Yes your right they mean the same Think only different terminology off center strike ,or obverse and reverse misaligned dies. I just wanted to see if you new that Rockdude very good my friend.encil: You been doing your homework.:thumb: JC FormerlyJazzcoinsJoe :smile
You can have both obv and rev dies misaligned and still not be an off center strike. The die in the collar can be misaligned to one side, just not to the extent the hammer die can be, and it can be misaligned in a different direction. A misaligned die error with part of the design missing is pretty scarce because to be that far off the hammer die will actually be hitting the collar with every cycle of the press. The operator will tend to notice things like that.
Thanks for all the replies.We learned some things we did not know. Thanks to schroeder,for listening to me and JC and others for clearing things up.I know it is not a big error,but i know it's an error.We know we won't get rich off of trying to sell it,but none the less my son is proud to have it,and will continue his almost daily search(haha)for that ''major'' mint error,and as i told him,you can't find it if your not looking. Thanks again and God bless,Keith
I agree with schroeder2246, going through rolls is a lot of fun when you do it the right way. I go into the bank and ask for federal rolls,(which depending where you live, will be in shrink wrap plastic rolls). Make sure they don't have any phone #'s on them. You will have better luck with these than those that have been brought in by customers. I have had luck where I happen to be in the bank when the person in front of me is turning in his huge jar of pennies for cash. But, usually just ask for fed rolls.:bigeyes: Also, this is the reason I hate when people say"Your looking to hard!". I usually look at %95 of my pennies even if they don't have a history of errors or varieties. You never know what your going to find! Enjoy!
As noted they are common. Most call them MAD coins. (Miss-Aligned-Dies) The obverse is not centered on the planchet were as the reverse is centered. The ones that are worth a premium are the ones where the devices flow over the edge like this example found on another forum.
Hi i have 1986 one cent but there is no leter D or any other under 1986 on the right side is it something worth checking?