1978 ? Nickel Struck On 1 Cent Planchet

I believe the date is 1978 -
It weighs 3.1 grams & is unc & red brown in color
I found it in a wheat penny bag a few years back & came across it again this week while moving my safe-DOH !
I dont deal in errors & was wondering if there is anyone with some current knowledge of what the value of this may be- My search on Heritage isnt comming up with anything - Maybe Im doing something wrong but I cant find it-

Thanks-

 

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Got to agree.
You'd think the details would be a bit more mushy with having less material to fill.
Besides, you can mix copper nitrate and "something" to plate many metals.

 

So its a Jefferson Nickel that was cut down (in some way)to be the same diameter as a cent planchet & coincidentally that size of the altered nickel weighs what a cent planchet should weigh ?
Im pretty sure its an authentic error , I have looked at alot of copper in hand -but you have got me thinking ? Is that even possible ?

 

nickels are 5 grams,right ? If you took off 1.9 grams (38%) wouldn't that be awfully noticeable ?

If the weight is 3.1 grams, it must be real.

 

Take a picture of the side with a penny next to it. I would like to see the thickness of the coin. So far I do not think it is an error, but will reserve a final judgement call.

I do not think weight alone would be an indicator.

 

Here it is next to a cent.

 

Which one is which?

 

The nickel strike is on the left-

 

Then there is something funny about your pickel or nenny (take your pick). The nickel is thicker than the cent example is thinner than a cent. Still, the nickel strike is relatively full. Unless you can come up with a scenerio, I do not believe that can possibly happen.

 

NO, I dont think so - There are not gouges- there are 2 rim dings though. The uneven & thinner planchet I think is from a smaller cent planchet being struck in a larger collar (nickel) . The coin spreads out more & then in its trip in thru the mint got a few rim dings-from being with a larger heavier coins.
I have the coin in hand & I guess I am seeing it totally different than you - I have see my share of counterfits & this coin under 20X looks unaltered-


Now I have to send it to be authenticated . Ill post the pics of the slab OR the body bag when I get it back-

 

I've seen dimes struck on penny planchets so a nickel ain't far fetched. However, it's difficult to determine authenticity without having it in hand, so I'm going to reserve judgment and await notification on what the grading company says.

I hope you have a winner! :thumb:

Ribbit,
Toad

 

I'm no Fred Weinberg on errors, it doesn't look quite right, but 38% is a lot to chip away, too.

 

I am soooo tempted to replicate the coin in question.
But, my ethics prevent me from doing so.

 

I think the strike is too strong... I'd think the thinner cent planchet would have a duller strike, but it would be hard to get it down to 3.1 grams, as well.

I don't like, or the story behind it, very much.

I like it less, the more I look at it, in fact !

 

WOW , This place seems about as negative as the PCGS boards-
I dont like the story ? What kind of bull is that ?


Ill swallow the darn thing if it comes back in a body bag (kinda like eating crow)


I believe 100% that its authentic ( Im not a greenhorn when it comes to errors )& I have done nothing but be honest & heplful on this board & .I am kinda of taking offense to this -If you cant tell.

A thinner planchet wouldnt have a weaker strike nessesarly- If there were no planchet in the die would it not still come together & clash ? Its not like it just stops when there is a thinner planchet in the press. So if a softer planchet goes in to the press that is set for & harder metal & gets struck -the effect would be as seen-
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Just my 6 cents-

 

The thinner coin would also result from the plancet not filling the collar thus no rim. It would look thinner from the edge. Let us know if you find out anything for sure.

 

You have to admit some of the stories are out there - not that this one is, but some of them are. So don't take offense. I personally do not know enough about errors and I hope it works out. My only concern were how rough the rims looked - not saying it is not authentic, just them rims look rougher than I would expect. I hope it comes back graded that would make it a real sweet find.