1970 and 1971 US proof sets with no "S"

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  1. burns250f

    burns250f Junior Member

    I have these sets, but I am not much of a collector and am gonna sell them. How much should I ask for them together and seperate?
     
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  3. aging wonders

    aging wonders Metalhead Since 95'

    First off, Welcome to CT. Coins without a mint mark up until 1980 (excluding the penny) are from the Philadelphia mint. Your sets are most likely mint sets. In order for us to determine that we will need some pictures please =). As to the value of a 1970 & 1971 mint set... I am clueless :p
     
  4. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    If they are still in their gov. wrappers they should have a little piece of plastic or metal telling what mint they are from . Also mint sets are just like regular circulation coins with mint luster and some hits or scratches , a proof set will have shiny fields with no cartwheel luster or any hits . But a picture is best . Like aging wonders said yours are most likely Philidelphia mint sets . The '70 mint set is worth about$20 because it is the only place to get that years Kennedy halves , the '71 about $5 .
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  5. yakpoo

    yakpoo Member

    If they are what you say they are, No "S" Proof Sets, I might list them on eBay...starting at the Red Book price and seeing if anyone bids.

    2010 Red Book:

    1970: (estimated mintage: 2200) $1350
    1971: (estimated mintage: 1655) $1800
     
  6. jaceravone

    jaceravone Member

    According to the info that I have, the 1970 Proof set contains the no mint mark dime and the 1971 set contains the no mintmark nickel. The 1970 is listing at $1,050 and the 1971 set lists at $1,650. So somewhere around $2500 probably would be a good price for the pair.

    Also, AgingWonders, the 1970&71 proof sets would contain a mintmark on all the coins and that would be an "S" for San Francisco.
     
  7. aging wonders

    aging wonders Metalhead Since 95'

    The proof sets would but not the Philly mint set. Philly mint marks we not added until 1980.
     
  8. yakpoo

    yakpoo Member

    I stand corrected! :D
     
  9. jaceravone

    jaceravone Member

    I know what you were saying, but the OP was talking about the proof sets which have the "S" mintmark. I guess the next follow-up question to the OP should have been which coins have the no mintmarks and that would most likely explain if these were proof sets or mint sets he was talking about.
     
  10. aging wonders

    aging wonders Metalhead Since 95'

    I agree
     
  11. dfwrocket

    dfwrocket New Member

    1971 11 Coin Mint Set with no S Penny

    Is this a Proof made without an S or 2 Philadelphia Pennies in this Mint Set?

    What would it sell for in this case?
    Should it be Graded?

    Thank you as one of my five has No S Penny as shown I have 3 kiddos in College counting on me I was looking at them to list them on ebay to bum spare change. I appreciate Responses that may prove helpful as I have only collected for years not sold. To be Frank I never knew this happened in these sets.

    I need advise. Image381.jpg 1971 11 coin mint set no s coin.jpg Image382.jpg

    Sincerely Rocket
     
  12. dsmith23

    dsmith23 Gotta get 'em all

    Neither of those cents appear to be proofs.
     
  13. jallengomez

    jallengomez Cessna 152 Jockey

    That's not a proof set, it's a Philadelphia mint set.
     
  14. dfwrocket

    dfwrocket New Member

    I agree Just wonder how this was done as they were mailed from Carson City NV I guess the were assembled there too.

    My main wonder is there any addition Value?

    42 year return on one cent. The cash for the investment was derived from coke bottles going to a Nickel that year.

    The Denver 5 are fine in the envelope. The S Circulating penny was to be in each 11 coin set.
     
  15. dfwrocket

    dfwrocket New Member

    1971 Mint 11 Coin Mint Set

    I Plan to sell this as I am unemployed other than trading my coins gathered over my life 1958 forward.As I stated my question is this worth Grading? SO:
    1.) Are they worth more than the normal 5 Bucks in anyone's Opinion.
    2.) I know Neither looks like a Proof Just that Proofs were made in San Francisco in 1971 without a mint mark. Yet, one of the no mint marks toned differently than the other.
    3.) All of the S Mint Marked Pennies are next to the dime in my 4 of 5 sets one has no S.
    4.)Return Address on all:
    The red envelope has an "UNCIRCULATED" "Bureau of the Mint"badge with 6 red stars and "MINT SET on same. The envelope pictured has return address as:
    TREASURY DEPARTMENT
    UNITED STATES ASSAY OFFICE
    50 FELL STREET
    SAN FRANCISCO, CALIF. 94104
    ___________
    OFFICIAL BUSINESS

    1971 - U.C.
    5.) Two additional pictures of 4 Pennies from my mint sets one with an S Front and Back, one without an S next to my Proof Set from 1971.

    Thanks for any advice! I have always been a collector now I may be forced to be a seller. Ha!
    No worries Just in hops of the opinions of others usually matters more than just me guessing.

    Kindness always, Rocket 5/28/2013
     

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  17. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    In short, your coins don't appear to be anything special. For that matter, two philadelphia mints sets by themselves (without the Denver Half that is) might just as well be spent at the bank since selling them on eBay is going to cost you. Most folks want both the Denver and Philadelphia cellos.

    $15 for the 1970 would be reasonable provided the Denver coins are with the set and $5 for the 1971 would be a gift!

    As for the rest of your coins, unless that are something special, I doubt that you'd get more than a couple of hundred. I've sold complete runs of Proof Sets from 1965 throught 2010 for less than $300 in open bidding. The same with mint sets as there just is not any demand for them.
     
  18. dfwrocket

    dfwrocket New Member

    1971 11 Coin Mint Set with no S Penny all 5 full sets 1 with no S

    Sorry folks,

    I am new to selling and just showing what I thought relevant the P&S Part I Have all 5 full Sets Pictured here and one of the 5 has no S Penny. Thank you.

    Does that change the equation?
     
  19. urbanchemist

    urbanchemist US/WORLD CURRENCY JUNKIE

    those are all mint sets not proof sets as mentioned by others. proof sets from those years came in a colored box and in a plastic display case

    0508_mc_proof_cover_lg.jpg
    0508_mc_1971PROOFSET_lg.jpg

    do you notice in the second picture all the coins have an S mint mark. the error coin would be missing the S. even the proof sets don't go for a lot of money without the error. your sets without the mint mark were minted in philadelphia. better luck next time. :thumb:
     
  20. AWORDCREATED

    AWORDCREATED Hardly Noticeable

    Now here is a nice old thread. So what is supposed to be in a 1971 mint set, especially the Philly half? If one coin is supposed to be an S marked Cent, then he either has a non stamped S coin or 2 Philly coins. How can we tell?
     
  21. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    It is not uncommon for for the mint sets to get packaged without all the required coins. In this case, the S Mint Lincoln was replaced with a Philadelphia Lincon. (If I'm reading you correctly.)

    There is not premium associated with this type of an error primarily because all the coins required for a US Mint Set are sent in bags to the packager. The packager then loads the coins for the sets into the packaging equipment and occasionally, mistakes occur.

    I recall reading where one lady received "2" 1970-S Cents in her 1970 Mint Set and one of the coins was a Small Date while the other was the RPM! Kind of a wini-win in which case, the set would have sold for a premium. Probably around $75 or so.
     
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