1964 SMS, PROOF OR REGULAR STRIKE

My boyfriend received this 1964 penny yesterday in change, and since everyone was so helpful with my last post about helping to clarify double die, I thought before I googled myself silly, I would post some pictures in hopes of non-googled human clairification in understanding the differences. The penny, too me, seems to be more detailed/defined in the image, and the finish is different when compared to other pennies I have from the 1960's. I do not have another 1964 Unfortunately my phone camera , or the magnifying app I downloaded help me to see die markers on the reverse. I tried to take pictures like another member suggested before, if need better pictures , let me know , I will be more than happy to take more ..

 

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Regular Strike. Not Proof.

 

Tell her why you say that @paddyman98 Oh Please Please tell us why?

 

The mints weren't producing proof coins in 64 but they made quite a few Special Mint Sets.

 

The infamous 64 SMS, will most likely never be found by any one. To this day none have ever been found in circulation, It is believed that all are accounted for when a dealer bought them from a mint directors estate. The finish you see is just a well struck cent not a proof or a SMS.

 

No proof sets in 1964? As Spock would say "Fascinating."

 

Not in 1964, they didn't. SMS coins were made in 65, 66, and 67.

There are a couple of extremely rare SMS test pieces from 64, but they are incredibly rare.

And yeah, they were making proofs in 1964.

 

The OP's coin is definitely a business strike. The strike is weak, the rims are rounded, the fields are lustrous.... not a single thing about this coin looks like a proof.

It's a shiny AU business strike cent. Someone probably had an UNC roll of them and just cracked it open and spent it.

 

Show me a 64 S then because I've never seen one and all the "proof" 64's that I see lack a mint mark which would mean it's a special mint strike

 

'64 proof sets were struck in philly, no mint mark...

• 1964 Philadelphia penny (no mintmark) – 2,648,575,000 (2.6 billion) minted; 10 to 25+ cents
• 1964-D penny (Denver) – 3,799,071,500 (about 3.8 billion) minted; 10 to 25+ cents
• 1964 proof penny – 3,950,762 minted; $1+
• 1964 SMS penny (special mint set) – approximately 30 estimated to be minted; $5,000+

 

Dude look up how many SMS and proofs were minted and you'll see the number is exactly the same so what does that mean?
No sarcasm intended, I'm genuinely curious

 

You are missing it, the SMS is 30 sets. Proof 2.6 Billion.
And the proofs have no resemblance to the SMS.

 

Same number as proof sets as SMS so I'm confused

 

Has to be a misprint in coinfacts.
http://m.pcgscoinfacts.com/Coin/Detail/3282

 

i have, and every where i look states anywhere from 15 - 50 sets produced..

 

This is from a Heritage auction. And if you read through all the Notations in each auction that Heritage has had, You can gain a little more information that backs up the 30 and under mintage. I am not sure what the Die markers are that PCGS, NGC and ANACS use to verify a SMS. I believe it is the pattern of certain die polishing lines seen on them.
http://m.pcgscoinfacts.com/Coin/AuctionDetail/3284/2970

 

and heres a coin world article on them... https://www.coinworld.com/news/us-coins/2011/12/1964-sms-coins-are-enigmatic.all.html

 

The link also said the SMS set was unknown but seeing how they were making sets not individual coins the first link that was brought to my attention about the 3,950,762 proof Lincoln cents that were made at the mint matches up exactly with how many SMS nickels we know to exist, so that leads me to believe they didn't make proofs in 64. If that still doesn't make sense to you and everyone else who chimed in about my comment then we'll have to agree to disagree