1957B silver certificate with error (upside down "1" in upper right front)

Discussion in 'Paper Money' started by gold_digger2011, Dec 25, 2011.

  1. gold_digger2011

    gold_digger2011 New Member

    I noticed an error on one of these silver certificates. The "1" in the top right front corner is upside down compared to the others... I have the error 1957B silver certificate on top and a non error 1957B silver certificate on bottom.

    The first link will be of the front side of both silver certificates
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/59884159@N06/6572054509/in/photostream

    T
    he next is of the back (mainly for rough grading purposes)
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/59884159@N06/6572057019/in/photostream/

    T
    he last is a closer look at the error silver certificate with a close up of the date and error "1"
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/59884159@N06/6572059341/in/photostream/

    W
    hat would something like this be worth in this condition?

    Thanks!!
     
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  3. 5dollarEdunote

    5dollarEdunote Coin Connoisseur

    How odd... interested to see what others say about this.
     
  4. vdbpenny1995

    vdbpenny1995 Well-Known Member

    uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhh?????? looks like a photoshop master did that
     
  5. gold_digger2011

    gold_digger2011 New Member

    There is absolutely no way a photoshop master did this because I was the one who took the picture... My great grandmother has a stack of silver certificates. This was one of them. I take it that it must be a very rare one eh? I took the pic with my new E-p1 Olympus camera that I got for Christmas!!
     
  6. Dave M

    Dave M Francophiliac

    If its not photoshop, it's done with the old-fashioned cut and paste (ie, scissors). Just no way this is real. The numbers were not printed separately somehow such that they could end up upside-down. Do you have this note in your hands that you could examine it under magnification?

    Dave
     
  7. vdbpenny1995

    vdbpenny1995 Well-Known Member

    Run your finger over the area and see if you feel a "slit" where it ccould seperate and if there is, its just pasted on and worth..... $1
     
  8. Kasia

    Kasia Got my learning hat on

    Looks like someone cut and pasted the oval containing the '1' upside down there. I would think it's a paste job, and probably could be seen if under good magnification.
     
  9. gold_digger2011

    gold_digger2011 New Member

    Guys, this is not a freaking joke!! If it was a joke I wouldnt have bothered with coming on here and posting this!! Especially on Christmas day.... I examined the dollar inside and out it's legit! My great grandmother has a stack of these and she's currently 85 years old. She's had these for who knows how long. I swear, if it's not documented you people dont believe it....

    I'll take another gander at it in a couple days under higher magnification.
     
  10. gold_digger2011

    gold_digger2011 New Member

    I just cant believe this is fake.... I've got to give a better look at that "1"... I know what's going to happen... I'm just going to say I checked it and it's real... How can I prove it to you? Take a video?
     
  11. Dave M

    Dave M Francophiliac

    You can certainly submit it to a grading service (PMG, PCGS, etc) who will have their experts look at it and give you their opinion. That would be a way to get someone who is presumably expert, who has the banknote in hand to make the determination. That would be your next step if you believe we're all wrong.

    Dave
     
  12. Kasia

    Kasia Got my learning hat on

    Sorry, I'm not thinking you are trying to fool us. It's just the processes to print the money will usually preclude this from happening, as far as I know. There is no censure from me for you or your family on this one, only a conclusion based on the picture I saw. I suppose that it's possible that one engraving was messed up and printed this, so please do submit it. If it is a real error, I would think it's valuable and you should know it.
     
  13. gold_digger2011

    gold_digger2011 New Member

    Okay, cool! Thanks and I appreciate all of your help! I'll let you know what I find out!

    I hope it's really real... I never really thought of someone copying and pasting it onto the note... I guess if they did, it was so accurate that I couldnt tell it.
     
  14. Iskae

    Iskae New Member

    1) I find it improbable, borderline impossible, for this to be real. Currency is not printed in such a way that an error like this is possible.

    2) On the first set of pictures, the thin white margin around the 1 is visible on the lower note and the upper left side of the top note. However, on the side where the 1 is inverted, that margin vanishes on the top half. Given that there appears to be no distortion on the back of the bill, I can only assume that a 1 was cut out from another bill and placed on top of this alleged error. This is further supported by the third picture set, where close examination appears to show a shadow around the oval containing the 1 at the 11-1 o'clock region.

    I see no reason to believe this to be anything but a fraud.
     
  15. gold_digger2011

    gold_digger2011 New Member

    Yea, I looked at it after it was said to be a copy and paste and I started to see where you guys were coming from. If it is a copy and paste, the 1 should peel off right?
     
  16. CashDude

    CashDude Member

    Laugh out loud...
     
  17. NOS

    NOS Former Coin Hoarder

    Hold the note up to a bright light and see if you can see the upright "1" beneath the upside down "1". If it is a paste job the original "1" should be visible depending on the quality of the alteration that was done.
     
  18. Cazkaboom

    Cazkaboom One for all, all for me.

    Before you get all these "PMD" answers, take it to a dealer and have it examined. My opinion is that it might be a really cool error.
     
  19. ikandiggit

    ikandiggit Currency Error Collector

  20. gold_digger2011

    gold_digger2011 New Member

    My question is why would someone waste their time counterfeiting this silver certificate? Especially within the first 5 years of its appearance from the press... My great grandmother has had these things since the early 1960's.... I guess someone just had too much time on their hands.:confused:
     
  21. ikandiggit

    ikandiggit Currency Error Collector

    What I was stating is, if it's not a cut and paste, then it has to be a counterfeit banknote because the method of engraving wouldn't allow for this kind of error to occur. Each plate is scrutinized for flaws and this one is more than obvious. Most of the errors on banknotes are the result of printing errors or mechanical malfunction or human error but this is far removed from the engravers table.
     
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