Alright guys last one for the day I think...1957 D, obviously an FS-501 Misplaced Mint Mark. However, there's a few noticable things I was wondering about: #1-What ever happened with the RED-001 MS64 on Coinfacts? Is that a misattributed coin or is that a real deal? I know it's different than the AU55 they show, but is it still legitimate? I've read mixed reviews and think both are pretty controversial as far as Re Engraved Dies considering even the AU55 example shows mismatched lines in the tailfeathers, but if it's labeled as such, who am I to argue. Either way, top one is Coinfacts MS64 example, mine is on the bottom. #2: The eagles right wing has a strong line running along it's body that I wanted to know if it is a Die Crack or a Die Gouge? Is there even a difference for those who collect die cracks/gouges? I've read that gouges are far more rare, but can't remember where and it was, likely online which may or may not be worth a grain of salt. I know that I haven't personally seen a FS-501 with the cracks but does it matter or is it just a minor addition, if anything, to the mint mark error?
Really to get any help Identifying your Quarter, you will have to get full size photos of both sides. And at least the photos of the die markers. Left wing die crack and position of the MM over the R. https://coins.ha.com/itm/washington...-29172.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515
My question was moreso regarding the FS-901 from Coinfacts. The MS64 example the have shows the same polishing and refinishing above the TER-DOLL of Quarter Dollar, the Branches, the MM, and on the Tailfeathers. I believe I've read that the MS64 in the photo was misattributed and I wanted to be sure that was the case. Beyond that, I have already matched up the FS-501 Mint Mark and it is in the photos in the OP. I noticed and Included the photos of my other question about if the line on the inside of the eagles feather is a die crack or die gouge, neither of which I've seen on other examples. I'll post full photos but my questions weren't entirely the question of if it is or is not the misplaced mint mark.
Actually you posted a strike thru or possibly damage on the inner wing. What I am talking about is the crack on the outside wing from United to Quarter. And which is it 901 or 501?
The very first picture that had the comparison photo was the 901 from coinfacts on top and mine on the bottom which shows the misplaced D pretty well. My other question was if the inside line on the wing was a die crack or gouge, which you just cleared up to be a possible strike through. Is the crack you're referring to found on the 901? If so, there's a huge crack, but the Tailfeathers look nothing like the AU55 example they also have pictured. My question regarding the 901 was that I was wondering if that example was misattributed or if it is legitimate? I believe mind to definitely be a 501 misplaced MM, but from the photos of the 901 example, it also looks very similar. I searched Coneca but they don't list any markers aside from the die states.
Also I would have to assume a 501 and 901 could never be found on the same quarter and with the obvious D showing in the branch, I have to assume it's no more than the misplaced MM. If you know of the markers for the 901 I will gladly try to photo them if they're there
Kinda hard to follow your post but I will tell you that I see what looks like a die crack on the inside of the left wing along the outside of the left-wing and possibly behind the Eagles head.
The positioning seems to be a misplaced MM. This is the first I have heard of the attribution. But I suspect a 501. Maybe you could help your thread with a reference to the 901. Also a better pic of the die crack going down the wing. There aren't any published die markers that I can find, so we have photos to use to do the work.
Ok, I'm going to do my best to get started on the differences that I have found, along with a few comparison photos for reference to the FS-901/RED-001. CONECA has the variety listed in their master listings. I have found very few photos of the coin, but it gets tricky within those couple photos. There are no sales through HA that I have found (maybe I'm searching the wrong reference title?). The FS-901 variety in Coinfacts shows a population of 2 in MS64, one of which they use as a picture to demonstrate the variety. They also show 1 in AU55 population, which is also pictured. There are noticable differences between the two and these are the examples that I have found: Left:AU55 Example Right:MS64 Example These two coins, even with the same attribution, show very different diagnostics. It is rumored that the MS64 example has been misattributed by PCGS. Although that may be the case, the die is much more worn and would show better reason to re-engrave the die, but the AU55 shows more obvious issues within the Tailfeathers. The secons comparison is the same 2 coins, AU55 showing no Die Crack on the wing while the MS64 example shows a prominent crack running down the wing. The following photos are of my coin in comparison to the MS64 example on Coinfacts: My coin shows the Misplaced D while the MS64 on Coinfacts does not. However, II believe that even in LDS state, either the MS64 on Coinfacts attribution has to be wrong, or it shows the Misplaced D as well and can't be seen in the pictures. I will post better pictures of the die cracks on my coin tomorrow. There are 3: One running down the outside of the wing, one behind the eagles head, and one on the inside of the wing that may be struck through or cracked.
The MS 64 on coinfacts is misattributed, and is not the 901. PCGS was informed, and has done nothing. That coin was purchased and registered to the #1 registry set. He paid $4K for it. I discovered the AU55. It sold on Ebay to the #2 registry for $4,500. The second MS 64, a real one sold on GC within the past year for $2K, but there's no trueview. Photos of that example are on the forums.
Your coin is as you indicated the FS501. There are many which share similar daignostics but without the misplaced D. There are multiple diags for the 501, but not all exist on each.
The GC MS 64 was also purchased by the #1 registry owner, presumably to replace his misattributed example. As I indicated, he'd paid $4K for essentially a $10 dollar coin. He didn't want to have it reviewed by PCGS as the price guide at that time for the only graded example was $400. This despite the fact there was no public sales history. At this point, I am aware of 5 known examples. One legit MS 64. My former AU 55 which really was the first ever graded, a PCGS Genuine Cleaned example which is on ebay, one which is notably interesting and different than the others and is raw (images of this example over at CCF, and I have another raw. That example, the one on CCF is a LDS, where the reengraved lines have been polished off, and it exhibits the typical appearance of the FS501, including a die crack on the wing. But the reengraving lines which extend upward into the arrow bundle are still visible. That coin is still raw, and photos can be located by running a google image search. The last example is in my collection, and is currently raw. In my opinion its an EDS and 64 / 65 For historical reference, the coin in the CPG was lost, per James Wiles.
Now, turning attention to the 57D FS 501, there were several reverse dies with multiple diagnostics. Most common but not exclusive is the heavy die polish on the reverse, especially around the tailfeathers and true mintmark. In addition, the die crack on the right outer wing, in various stages, with the most notable being a wishbone shaped large arching die crack which continues through the lettering in QUARTER. Also, some examples share Obverse diagnostics which include a die crack horizontal across the top of GWs head and another partial near semi circular die crack almost centered beneath the lower bust. These are essentially the known pick up points for the FS 501 Misplaced.
Who better to answer that question than the man that discovered the real coin! Thanks for all of the information and taking the time to answer my question. I find the reengraved feathers intriguing to say the least and really appreciate the insight and knowledge on anything regarding them, especially the 57 D. Thanks again, don't think it could be answered any better!
