1951 S Lincoln Wheat Penny-Rim Error Question

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Rosalita, Oct 7, 2020.

  1. Rosalita

    Rosalita Active Member

    Hi guys,

    I have this 1951 S Lincoln Wheat penny and noticed that there is something going on with the rim at the top left back of Lincoln's head. (See 2nd photo). Can someone help me determine what this error is please? 1951 S Lincoln Wheat Penny (Obverse).jpg
    1951 S Lincoln Wheat Penny(Obverse) (Rim Close Up).jpg 1951 S Lincoln Wheat Penny (Obverse)  (Side View2).jpg 1951 S Lincoln Wheat Penny (Obverse) (Rim Close up2).jpg 1951 S Lincoln Wheat Penny (Reverse).jpg
     
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  3. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Looks like a lamination on the rim. Cool
     
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  4. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

  5. Evan Saltis

    Evan Saltis OWNER - EBS Numis LLC

    +1 on lamination
     
  6. Evan Saltis

    Evan Saltis OWNER - EBS Numis LLC

    No cud, cud would be raised. if anything this is recessed, just my thought.
     
  7. John Burgess

    John Burgess Well-Known Member

    doesn't look like a rim cud, looks like a lamination to me.

    I'm also skeptical of it being a cud because it hasn't already been identified by now and if it were a cud it would have been a die breaking event that was repeated and there would be more examples found until now. if this were a cud, it should have brothers and sisters out there.

    As far as cuds go for 1951-S, both known and cataloged are Reverse cuds.
    CU-1c-1951S-05R
    CU-1c-1951S-06R

    A lamination would be a planchet event and a "one off" scenario. which I think is much more likely. if this were a cud, I'd think it would have been identified by now, it's been almost 70 years since minting.
     
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  8. Penny Luster

    Penny Luster Well-Known Member

    +1 Lamination
     
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  9. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

  10. Evan Saltis

    Evan Saltis OWNER - EBS Numis LLC

    On wheat cents lamination problems are extremely common. This is almost-textbook imo.
     
  11. John Burgess

    John Burgess Well-Known Member

    the lamination on your link isn't necessarily the "crack" it's the "leafing" of the layer of metal on the surface of a coin that is peeling away. if you look at that edge, it has similarities to the edge of the ops coin they posted. the surface of a coin cracks and flakes in a lamination, caused by contaminants in the alloy that cause the metal to separate along the horizontal plane and peel up

    you can see this in the 2nd picture above the O, and the edge of it goingon the rim and down the coin edge.

    RESIST THE URGE TO PICK AT IT OR PEEL IT OFF! LOL.

    Probably worth a buck or two I'd think as Evan said, it's pretty common on wheat cents, especially the small ones.
     
  12. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    Ok it's a peel . A lemon peel th.jpg
     
  13. Fred Weinberg

    Fred Weinberg Well-Known Member

    I disagree with you guys -

    It looks like a small rim cud to me,
    not a lamination.
     
  14. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    Yeah. Someone agrees with me.
     
  15. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Fred, can you please explain. To me the rim looks cracked, not raised like a Cud in two places. It also looks cracked, ever so lightly in OD in GOD. @Fred Weinberg
     
  16. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    I wish I had it in hand so I could see it .
     
  17. Fred Weinberg

    Fred Weinberg Well-Known Member

    I think what you're seeing as 'cracked every so lightly'
    is just the raised area of the rim cud.

    Shall we ask to have the OP take another photo or two?

    I see the rim cud as being from the right of the "N" (In)
    to the right of the "O" (god)

    Take another look at his side/edge shot........
     
  18. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    @Fred Weinberg When I look at the 3rd photo I see a raised crack on the right side on the edge of the coin. When I look at the 2nd photo I see in the field of the coin a slightly raised crack from 2 o'clock on the O to 3 o'clock on the D. Just trying to learn and that takes an understanding.
     
  19. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    @Rosalita Wouldvyou be so kind as to take a close up of the OD in GOD, another with the IN GOD limited to the field of the coin. Then can you get a photo of the rim and nothing but the rim that shows the area in question. Thank you
     
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