1944 Jefferson nickel

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  1. Willysilver

    Willysilver HEADS UP

    1944 no mint mark no Henning on the R 4.89 grams i think i hit the lottery
     

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  3. JPD3

    JPD3 Well-Known Member

    1944 Hennings weigh 5.4 grams while genuine nickels weigh 5.0 grams, according to error-ref.com
     
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  4. Kevin Mader

    Kevin Mader Fellow Coin Enthusiast Supporter

    Willy - you’ll need better pictures of the reverse. Sharp, clear photos are needed for a good diagnosis.

    Weight is under which could indicate that it’s a counterfeit of a counterfeit (e.g., Chinese fake). My Henning is right about 5g.

    Missing loop in R so it may be a different reverse die. But clearer pictures are needed to find the markers.

    Looking good at the moment but let’s see what we can tell from better photos.
     
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  5. Willysilver

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    bro i just found another one
     
  6. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    Chaching!! Take the day off from work. Your rich!! Nice finds.... thumb.gif
     
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  7. Kevin Mader

    Kevin Mader Fellow Coin Enthusiast Supporter

    @JCro57

    Joe - I thought this might interest you and given you may be the most knowledgeable on the topic, could offer an opinion.

    If memory serves, there are at least 3 sanctioned reverse dies, the initial reverse die created for the 1944 variety spawning the need to quickly create others. I’m not sure that I’ve read anything that limits the number of different reverse dies.

    The weight has been a point of speculation for a longtime now. Most of the Henning nickels are heavy, but as with my specimen the weight is about nominal. I recall reading that under weight specimens are associated with Chinese fakes. But I would not know what that source is now that many years have passed.

    Do you have thoughts on Willy’s specimen??
     
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  8. Jersey magic man

    Jersey magic man Supporter! Supporter

    Circulation may have reduced its weight.

    The Henning nickel for 1944 has three variations:
    1. No mint mark without the looped "R"
    2. No mint mark with the looped "R"
    3. No mint mark with the looped "R" and a die crack from top of the head to between the "U" and "S" in pluribus.

    My 1944 (1) Henning weighs 5.04 grams.
     
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  9. Willysilver

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    i found 2 1944 No Mint mark and still have 10 more rolls to go through there are so many S mint marks got everything from a 38 s to a 52 s they are hard to see
     
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  10. Willysilver

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    None of the above especially on the 2nd 44 that coin is way to clean to be Henning the strike is bold
     
  11. Willysilver

    Willysilver HEADS UP

    Let me know if you can find a mint mark get some better pictures for you pal
     

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  12. Kevin Mader

    Kevin Mader Fellow Coin Enthusiast Supporter

    Your second specimen has a marker (the dot above the left corner of the Monticello. This looks to be authentic.
     
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  13. masterswimmer

    masterswimmer A Caretaker, can't take it with me

    Willy, I've been looking at all your posts with lots of frustration. Your pictures absolutely offer no help whatsoever. Please try to incorporate better picture taking technique.

    1- Only ONE coin in each picture.
    2- Get as close to the coin as possible without the object in the viewfinder becoming out of focus.
    3- Edit the picture before posting and crop out everything other than the coin. The left and right and top and bottom of the coin should always be just barely at the edges of the screen.
    4- Always post the picture as Full Screen, not Thumbnail.

    If you can do these things when you post your pix you'll get a lot more people to respond to your posts. Right now, we cannot possibly offer you good advice or guidance or answer your questions because we can't see what you see with your coin in your hands.

    And finally, it would be really helpful if you use punctuation in your posts. No periods, commas, caps, question marks, etc. make your posts look like long running strands of DNA sequences.

    Hope this helps. It's only meant to offer you some assistance in getting the results from our members that you seek.
     
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  14. Willysilver

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    Thank you i will.
     
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  15. Willysilver

    Willysilver HEADS UP

    Where can I read about the markers other than the normal are and the die crack
     
  16. Kevin Mader

    Kevin Mader Fellow Coin Enthusiast Supporter

    The link to erro-ref above. That’ll get ou started. Here is the dot photo I have for you -

    IMG_2118.jpeg IMG_2115.jpeg IMG_2120.jpeg
     
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  17. Willysilver

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    You are 100% correct I've been researching this thing for 4 hours and I finally found it but the other one the first one I submitted does not have the dot and does not have the die crack so I got a shot at that one and I want to thank you for all your help it's really really appreciated do you need any nickels in your collection any hard to get ones cuz I got them all I'll send you one
     
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  18. Willysilver

    Willysilver HEADS UP

    Conclusion on the 1944 no mint mark 2nd submission that is a Henning nickel although the first one that I submitted has no dye marks to be a Henning I'm going to bring it to the xrf guy tomorrow up at the Silver Queen over here in Largo
     
  19. Willysilver

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    percent
     
  20. Willysilver

    Willysilver HEADS UP

    It's also struck through Greece the Monticello and the five on the reverse so that might be even better better odd there cuz it's got an error and it looks like it's a little bit off center or broad struck
     
  21. JCro57

    JCro57 Making Errors Great Again

    I have a book coming out that will address all of this next month :)
     
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