This is my first post here on CoinTalk. I have a 43' S steely in ms-65+ with a die crack, cud and a possible doubled S. *The inside of the "R" in Liberty is filled. *The Left Wheat Ear has a clean die crack from the 8' oclock to 10' position. *Possible doubled S This is the second coin in from an original roll of pure 43-S. Should i get the coins certified and does anyone know the current value of the coin mentioned above? Thanks and any information is appreciated Kermit
filled dies, small die cracks, and machine doubling is common on steelies. as for that S, need a closer picture.
and for future reference, a cud is a missing piece along the rim. that reverse die crack looks like it could become a cud at a later die state
Here's my 1943 Cud error coin. Cool, huh? Recent Finds ... Steel Cent Cud Found In BU Roll Images courtesy of David Winn June 26, 2010 -- David Winn reports finding a neat looking Major Die Break on the reverse of a 1943 zinc coated steel cent. Major Die Breaks are often affectionately referred to as Cuds. He said that he found it while searching what he perceived to be an original roll vs. a put-together-roll since many of the coins in the roll shared the same die characteristics (such as the same die breaks, etc.). He noticed that this particular Cud is rather symmetrical "with sharp angles" unlike the majority of other cuds that are more often than not, "an amorphous blob ." The zinc plated steel cent planchets used in 1943 wreaked havoc on the dies resulting in extreme die wear and breakage. Over 80 cuds are known for the Philadelphia issue alone and 51 for the San Francisco Mint. Mysteriously and in shark contrast, Denver only produced a total of two cuds known so far. These numbers are based on the listings found in Sam Thurman and Arnold Margolis', The Cud Book produced in 1997 and their 2001 The Cud Book Supplement. Undoubtedly a few more have been added to the list since then. While the quality of the images in The Cud Book are somewhat lacking and don't allow me to to positively identify Winn's variety by it's listing number (if it is listed) or be able to tell if it is a new one, it is without a doubt a neat find and because it's on a steel cent and in demand by error collectors more so than other cuds of similar vintage. To learn more about cuds, what they are and what they aren't, and a look at several actual dies that produced cuds go here: http://koinpro.tripod.com/Articles/WhatIsACud.htm. Don't forget to visit www.CoinSpace.org while you're at it! Winn, (aka TequilaDave), is the moderator of CoinSpace. KP http://www.conecaonline.org/
Original posting looks like it is listed in The Cud Book as LC-42S-28R Ret. I can match up the other posts if you want.
I personally see no doubling on the MM or date, and the D on the Buff is just die deterioration doubling.
Well, that second one I dont believe is a die crack. So when a piece of the die on the rim breaks off its a cud. But when the piece breaks but doesnt fall off, its a retained cud.
Ok, congratulations on your find. This is a listing of cuds, die cracks, etc. Its called Cuds on Coins, COC for short: http://cuds-on-coins.com/lincoln-cent-retained-cuds-1940-1949/ Your second coins isnt a die crack but a retained cud. RDC-1c-1943-05.
http://doubleddie.com/914076.html Looks like it could be a RPM too Compare these die stages to your coin and see if you can get a match on anything