Hi frog, correct me if I'm wrong because I value your knowledge and input, but weren't pennies this old a straight up alloy mix and not laminated? Could this be a planchet flaw error instead?
You are correct. They are an alloy. The lamination is an issue with the alloy. It is a planchet flaw. http://www.error-ref.com/?s=lamination
I wonder why there is no example of this : Lamination Error: Loss Before Strke PART V. Planchet Errors: Lamination Errors: Loss of Lamination Before Strike Definition: Flakes of metal can peel off the surface off a planchet before the strike. Such planchet defects are generally attributed to the presence of contaminants in the alloy. BTW frog, thanks for the link. I'm curious because I recently won, and just received in the mail yesterday, an 1845 Great Britain Half-Crown with what was described as a planchet flaw error. I believe it is the one above because you can see the strike both in the non-de-lammed area and in the de-lammed area. I will try to post a photo later. If I succeed, it will be my first photo to post on Coin Talk !! (OK Where's that cartoon about useless threads without pictures?)
Perhaps @paddyman98 or @JCro57 have an example they can share? Looking forward to seeing your coin @Hookman . Love me some british coins. Eapecially half crowns.
Yeah, this is kinda like what I've got. It looks like it de-lammed before the strike and then the strike put the design on both the normal part of the coin and the de-lammed part. And this would be called "Loss of Lamination Before Strike" , Frog and Paddy? BTW, I've taken a series of pix, with and without flash. Now I just need to figure out how to get them from my phone to my computer. And then from the computer onto Coin Talk !! I'm very old school, non-tech savvy. But I will somehow " muddle through " as the British would say. Cheerio !
Two are strike throughs. You can see the image pressed into the penny. A lamination peal is an annealing issue and will lift away. if the mint strike is after the lamination peal there will not be any device in that area because the die will not strike it....or it will be weak and broken. With a strike through cloth, tape etc, the image is there but fuzzy. These two errors are often misinterpreted.
I disagree with your attribution. All are Laminations. The issue is created with the tonnage of pressure used to strike a coin. As you can see the images beyond the surface. I will find the 2 Cents in question and weigh them. If it is struck through it would weigh 3.11 grams. If it is a lamination it would weigh less. Simple.
