1883 No Cents V-Nickel - Die break or other on reverse

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  1. BostonCoins

    BostonCoins Well-Known Member

    Hello Everyone,

    I often see people post coins with cuds and die breaks. I then see some of the more knowledgeable people chime in an say "that's common for that series" or "Common for that year". Etc..

    I've had this 1883 No Cents V Nickel for at least 10 years. I think I would give her a grade of VF or XF?

    Anyhow, on the reverse, I spotted what I think appears to be a Die Break or something else on the reverse. It it most noticeable at the 5 o'clock position on the reverse, as well as the 9 o'clock position.

    Is this a die break or something else? If so, is this just a common thing seen a lot on this series, therefore, doesn't affect the value of the coin at all? And do you agree with my grading range? I can see spots forming on it. I may have to address those in the future.

    Thank you in advance!

     
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  3. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    There are IDB's Interior die breaks. These usually look like small blobs of metal.
    Then there are die cracks, and that is what you have there.
    A cud is another blob like area on the coin, but it affects the rim/ edge of the coin.

    Nice looking photos Boston.
     
  4. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    These die cracks are fairly common on the V nickels.

    Reason:
    This use of nickel in the production of coins was a very hard metal, compared to silver or gold. The dies wore out quicker than for other coins/metals.

    Personally, I would grade it as an AU, but, possibly because of the pictures, cleaned
     
  5. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    I would say that its hard to grade on these photos . If I had to guess though , I would say AU details. I too have an 1883 that has issues as well . It's no die crack but some kind of lam. issue .WELCOME to the V-ZONE . 1883LibertyHeadnocentsobv.jpg
     
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  6. kanga

    kanga 65 Year Collector

    It's a die crack.
    And the coin looks like it's been cleaned.
     
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  7. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    Common die crack. It does appear to have been cleaned in my opinion. Thank you for posting the coin.
     
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  8. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Well-Known Member

    Interesting that @SensibleSal66 would mention lamination and not a die crack. Enlarging and examining the photo more closely, I tend to agree. It doesn't appear to be raised at all. What say you @paddyman98?
     
  9. Beefer518

    Beefer518 Well-Known Member

    My first thought was lam also. It doesn't look like a die crack to me. The points I noticed that lean me towards lamination:

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  10. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Those are die cracks. There is what could be called an interior die break there between the A or AMERICA and the M or UNUM where the die crack diverges and pieces of the die have chipped off at the edges of the cracks. There is another smaller case of the edge of the crack chipping and making a small interiaor die break below the M in UNUM. Through UNITED is just a die crack.
     
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