1883 Liberty V Nickel- Lamination Error??

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by SensibleSal66, Apr 14, 2022.

  1. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    Hey all! Ok, so I showed this about 7 months ago and would like another opinion for those that might have missed it or is a "newbie". This is obviously an 1883 No Cents Liberty Nickel. It has 2 lines running down the Neck. Those are on the slab, trust me.;)
    What I'm referring to is in the Obverse and is approximately at K10. It definitely looks like a section that is a "tad" lower than the rest of the coin. I know there is toning or a stain there, but you have to look beyond that.
    Well, what do you all think? Thanks for your comments and participation. Also, do you believe it deserve the MS61 that it is according to ANACS? IMG_20220411_104729392[6997].jpg IMG_20220411_104941240[6994].jpg cropped1.jpg IMG_20220411_105118049[6992].jpg
     
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  3. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Sal if you can give me a better date shot I can give you the attribution. This date thought plentiful in both no cent and cent usually do not grade high. They for most part lack luster, more dull greyish than bright silver. The date placement as well the die cracks are used to nail down the attribution.
    Your specimen looks to be graded on average of 58-61. And I say yes to a lamination issues in front of her eyes..another issue with the series as well time peroid and medal issues.
     
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  4. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    @Paddy54. Notice the "die crack"?? Here is the date also. :)
    IMG_20220414_054823371.jpg IMG_20220414_054852128.jpg
     
  5. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    Here's the Label. IMG_20220414_055908292.jpg
     
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  6. alurid

    alurid Well-Known Member

    That area at 10k looks like your coin was struck through debris, which is probably the cause of the staining around it to.
     
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  7. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    20220414_061741.jpg IMG_20220414_054852128.jpg

    19.2 1, and 8 show the the repunches. The die crack acttuly runs to the rim from the 3. This is the major pup for the marriage.
     
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  8. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    OKay! I don't quite know your language, but I get the gist. ;)
    :bookworm:. I'm willing to learn though. :)
     
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  9. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    This is the actual crack path, it is the pup pick up point, to id the attribution of the die marriage..meaning what obv,& rev. Dies were paired to create thiis coin. 20220414_064724.jpg
     
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  10. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    WoW! Cooool Beans!! You learn something everyday.
     
  11. Millard

    Millard Coindog Supporter

    and so your saying the die pairing is 19.2 ? also, I don't see the die crack at the date and I thought Sal was referencing the die crack at the top thru the stars and Liberty crown. I have one of these also, so I'm very interested to understand. thanks
     
  12. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    No the 19.2 was a number that Peters and Mahon used to list the rpd.
    You will find simular numbers by different people ,and the numbers are listed by the discovery ,or cross reference. So you may have several number that stand for the same variety. However they cross reference.....between all the experts who do the attributions. You may see Breen number,an F S number ,Fletcher # or even coneca number.
    Die marriages goes a bit deeper as you are looking to match both obv. And rev dies that produced a coin.
    Then there are remarriage where they use another pairing using 3 dies it is something that you need to read and enjoy playing detective trying to use all the pick up points to match a pair that weren't supposed to be matched.
     
  13. Millard

    Millard Coindog Supporter

    Ok. Got it. I didn't know this also had an rpd. Good to know. Thanks
     
  14. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Well-Known Member

    To answer your original question: Lamination? No. A "tad" lower? No. I believe the stain makes it appear so, fooling the eye a bit.
     
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