1822 Large Cent Newcomb Help

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  1. Mark Metzger

    Mark Metzger Well-Known Member

    Hey folks,
    I just acquired this large cent and would appreciate any help with identifying the variety. I can't seem to find an illustrated guide online.
    Thanks!
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  3. Eduard

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    Newcombs are not my strength, and I do not have a guide either, so I have the same problem.
    As a tip what I do to attribute these is to go to HA archives and look for each Newcomb number in turn. For 1822 there are 14 varieties, so you will need a little time, but hey, it's fun!
    (I wish I could help you off the bat...)
     
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  5. Insider

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  6. Mark Metzger

    Mark Metzger Well-Known Member

    Thanks! Can you explain the identifying markers? I see the PCGS Coinfacts pages but I don't know what I'm looking for.
     
  7. messydesk

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  8. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    There are only two varieties that have the leaf below the second S in STATES far past right, N-2 and N-7. On N-2 the point of the leaf below the last A in AMERICA is below the right base of the A, on N-7 it is below the cent of the A. Also note the point of the outermost leaf below the E in AMERICA.

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    N-7
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    Final confirmation is on the obverse you can see some of the die crack through stars 8 - 11. N-7 does not have this crack. The crack shows best on yours between stars 9 -11.

    N-2 obv

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  9. Mark Metzger

    Mark Metzger Well-Known Member

    Awesome detective work @Conder101 Thank you so much!
     
  10. Insider

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    Already done above. I opened the book and picked out one characteristic (in this case the "leaf/S" position and was happy to see only two choices. Next, I looked at the position of the "berry" under the "M" in "America" and it matched N-2. I always match up both sides of my coin (N-2) with the images of both sides for a double check that it is not a new die combo. What parts of the design you use depends on the condition of the coin. Note that both of us used different parts of the design to attribute the coin.
     
  11. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    We did both start with the leaf/S position though. That is my favorite starting point on the middle date large cents.
     
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