1807 International eagle?

Discussion in 'What's it Worth' started by Sarawakian, Jul 6, 2005.

  1. Sarawakian

    Sarawakian Member

    Hello All,
    today I look inside an old storage box in my garage and found this coin. I don't remember when I got it, so I did a search on the internet on this coin..but very odd, nothing comes up..can some one help me with it and if it has any value or not. thanks!!
     

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  3. satootoko

    satootoko Retired

    Well, two things are certain -
    • It's a medallion/token and not a coin, and
    • it was not produced in 1807, or at any time prior to West Germany's resurgance as an economic power quite a few years after the post-World War II U.S. Marshall Plan had worked its magic.
    The symbols of the dollar, yen, pound and Deutsch Mark depicted inside the shield on the reverse(?) were not the four primary world currencies in 1807. In fact, neither the yen nor the Deutsch Mark existed, and the U.S. was definitely not a great world economic power.

    The yen was officially created by an act of the Meiji Government in 1871, although coins dated the previous year were minted and circulated.

    The "Deutsch Mark" made its appearance on coins even more recently, on the 1950 1 Mark (KM#110) coin of the German Federal Republic ("West Germany").

    In 1807 the unified German Empire was still 74 years in the future, and the Austro-Hungarian Thaler was the dominant Germanic currency.

    Imperial coins, when they came along, used simply "Mark". "Reich's Mark" was used by both the post-WW I Weimar Republic, and Hitler's Third Reich. The German Democratic Republic ("East Germany") went back to the Imperial "Mark" during its nearly half-century existence.

    Edited to add: Perhaps you have someone's attempt to reinvigorate the concept of Dana Bickford expressed in 1874 pattern coins, although that doesn't explain the 1807 date. :confused: >>Click here<< and then scroll between half and two-thirds of the way down the page, for pictures and descriptions of patterns formerly in the collection of Harry W. Bass Jr. Bickford's idea, which never caught on, was to have multiple national denominations on the same coin - somewhat of a precursor to the Euro. :cool:
     
  4. kvasir

    kvasir Show me the Money**

    Looks kinda freaky as it seems like someone was trying to make a sample of what a world currency might look like. Such world currency is frequently described by people who are into interpreting the Book of Revelation in the Bible and come up with a series of doomsday scenarios such as described in the Left Behind book series.

    Still doesn't explain about the date though.
     
  5. gxseries

    gxseries Coin Collector

  6. chrisild

    chrisild Coin Collector

    The connection to that Eagle Star Group sounds quite plausible actually ... By the way, here http://www.mundoanuncio.com/anuncio/vendo_moneda_coleccionable_1130703660.html somebody offers a very similar piece. No image, it seems - what is interesting though is that in this case it's a silver piece ("Moneda de Plata del año 1807 The International Eagle"). The picture above looks more "copper-ish" to me ...

    As a side note, satootoko is right about the Deutsche Mark. That (West) German currency was created in 1948, and the first Deutsche Mark coins were issued in 1950. Now the GDR (East G.) used a mix of names for its currency - the early names were "Mark der Deutschen Notenbank" (MDN) and "Deutsche Mark" (DM), then it was called "Mark der Deutschen Demokratischen Republik". But had they put that on their coins, one side would have been "full" right away. :p

    Christian
     
  7. Nishan singh

    Nishan singh New Member

    I have also same coin but its 24k gold
     
  8. DeeSands

    DeeSands New Member

    So, it is 2020 and I just found this coin but mine is gold.
     
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  9. expat

    expat Remember you are unique, just like everyone else Supporter

    Pictures please
     
  10. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    It's not a coin. It's a token. I'd also say that it's newer, certainly not from the date on it.
     
  11. serdogthehound

    serdogthehound Well-Known Member

    Looks like 1986 from the Eagle Star group which was founded in 1807
    https://www.hklba.org/eng/HKLBA/YearBook/HKLBA - 1986 yearbook.pdf

    It seems it was intended to represent a basket of currencies help by the investment group for currencies investors. note the link was to a book containing an ad and was found with google .

    Here is a link to the company today doesn't look like they are in the coin business any longer

    Seem like a really cool find
     
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  12. Neo

    Neo New Member

    I do have this coin/token in “gold” implemented in some sort of plastic square!
     
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  14. CaptHenway

    CaptHenway Survivor

    So, a modern (1986) copper advertising piece for some sort of mutual fund based upon currencies, floated by a British insurance company with one corparate ancestor founded in 1807. I would bet large sums of money that any "gold" one is gold plated.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eagle_Star_Insurance
     
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