1776 WM Copper & USA bar cent coins - fake or real?

Hi all, I've had these 2 coins since about 1969 and I'm not sure how to tell if either are the real deal or?? I certainly welcome all comments and opinions. Thanks

 

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The die markers are not present for the bar cent,so that one is no good.

The 1776 looks to be an electrotype copy of a fake

 

Thanks. Do you know sites where I can learn more about these regarding your info? I don't know what an electrotype copy of this coin is or about die markers. I'm lost on these 2. Thanks again!

 

Thanks again, No need for explanations on die markers as I am now reading about what you mean about the central die crack and spur on 2nd bar. Thanks

 

Die marker is a consistent mark (tie die chip,die scratch act.) on the coin. The Bar cent should have 2 spikes the come off the bars which are not present

 

Thanks, I just found that and also found info on electrotype on NGC. Very informative! Thanks for the great info

 

I believe both are older electrotype copies.

 

Both are replica coins in my humble opinion.

 

100% guranteed fake

 

How do I find out if my coin is a fake or real? I have a coin that says 1776 on it and I got it from work some one came threw drive threw and handed it to me out of a coin book I like it so much that I kept it I also have 4 Morgan sliver coins 3 of them are 1889 and one is 1896 l

 

Post some pictures of your coins and someone will be glad to help. If your "1776" coin matches the one in this thread though, it is a fake.