1300 gold staters while bird-watching...

Some people are just lucky I guess...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...0-hoard-2-000-year-old-Celtic-gold-coins.html

Let's see what happens to them

 

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Hey, I like to go bird-watching, why haven't I ever found any treasure out in the field? Well, I did find a quarter on the ground once, but... just not the same.

 

Only 650£ a stater sound like a low amount. These things look cherry (as well as being linked to Boudicca). This guy is gonna be watching a lot of tropical birds now.

 

They are probably more common than Chute and GB-E staters now and you can buy them for £600, so the valuation is probably about right

 

Wow an amazing find.

 

They are not common (or should I say weren't common). Though, this isn't my regular collecting area. So, if you have examples, I would love to see em.
I know they are a bit high end, but I checked CNG and that's how much scrubby quarter staters go for. I appreciate the comment but stand by my statement.

 

I hope they didn't find any gold staters in the hoard like my Commius stater .


CELTIC, Atrebates & Regni, King Commius, circa 50-25 BC. AV Stater: 17 mm, 5.42 gm, 7 h. Southern Mint, struck 30-25 BC. Obverse: Devolved head of Apollo. Reverse: Celtic horse facing right, chariot wheel below, & arm of charioteer above.

 

Yours is a beautiful coin, for certain.




The one closeup I saw of the coins from this recent hoard is less spectacular, but amazing, nevertheless.



I am not sure how they concluded that these coins had any relationship with Boudica, however. Maybe someone feels the need to embellish an already-spectacular find.

 

Hopefully, they will end up on Chris Rudd auctions. 1300=they will go for less the 650 UK Pounds. That would make it even more common then the Gallic War Staters/ Ambiani. Always nice when a huge hoard is found/ means affordable coins for our collections.

 

Common for British Celtic coins is defined as 101 to 200 known coins. He's just added 1300 to the population count which was already over 100. They look like Whaddon Chase staters and they currently come in at around £1,000 (based on a friend buying one a few months ago for £1,000; depending on quality of course). If these hit the market (and they get valued as if they would) then they will be on par with other staters that exist in this number, and that's the £600-700 mark.

Here's an example CNG sold for $795: https://cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=255772

 

This is how our hobby works. Those who do not have a coin hope they find a bunch while those who do prefer theirs was the last one ever found. It reminds me of the empty land behind my house for the first 15 years we lived here. Someone bought it and divided it into 50+ lots so we were destined to have neighbors. We hoped we would always have a 160 acre back yard but it was not to be. Our daughter bought the lot that backs onto ours and now lives a short step over a creek from us. If I had been smart, I could have bought the whole parcel 15 years ago and now would not have those 'back door neighbors'. On the other hand, they are nice people (whose major fault is they have no interest in inheriting my coins).

Question: Which stater do you see as having the greater value in 20 years assuming equal condition): One documented to having been from the hoard or one purchased without provenance before the hoard was found when the coin was considered rare? Currently there are many high end collectors willing to pay a premium for a coin with an old provenance. How does this apply to coins that once were unique or rare that later became very common?

 

Boudica was queen of the Iceni Tribe. & started her purge against the Romans & British supporters around AD 60. She died a few years later.




Iceni coinage from that period is quite crude & usually of low carat gold.


Iceni gold stater, mid to late 1st cen. BC.


Iceni 1/4 stater of the same period. Seaby 429.



These are some coins from a hoard of 840 Iceni gold coins (the Wickham Market Hoard) struck c. 40 BC - 15 AD.

 

Let's be honest, a coin from an established hoard will almost always sell for more than a coin of equal quality that isn't from a hoard . There is a mystique with hoard coins versus coins from a dealer's stock, regardless how old the hoard is. If the hoard is large eventually the average value of the coin type will drop, as seen with the huge influx of Owls on the market today. We know most of the Owls on the market today are from the undisclosed (probably illegal) hoard allegedly discovered somewhere in Turkey. The sad thing with these current Owls on the market today is collectors will never be able to say positively that they came from this undisclosed hoard. The current hoard of LRBs found near Alsace, France has stirred a lot of interest in the common coins found in that hoard, & collectors are paying a hefty premium for those coins.

 

Respectfully, Boudica was one bad dude.

If you can believe the excellent ancient Roman historian Tacitus's account, Boudica killed 70,000 Roman civilians and allies before Rome finally destroyed her army: